Post by ES_97Sport on Aug 28, 2014 16:35:37 GMT -5
So, don't you love it when when something minor turns into an expensive PITA?
I'm heading out to the Maze in UT in a couple weeks and need to be able to carry extra fuel. The trip from Green River to the Maze and back is something like a 190 mile round trip and this doesn't count any wheeling to actually get INTO the Maze, side trips or just plain getting lost - which, of course, I NEVER do.
I've gone though a dozen cans in the last 20 years and they all leak. Some more than others, but they still all leak. I wanted a container that wasn't metal and wasn't going to leak when it start bouncing them around. So, after much surfing I came across the new US Military fuel and water containers. Yes, Jerry cans. But they've been redesigned and now their plastic and allegedly, unlike their former counterparts, don't leak.
Size is good for me and I figured I'd pick up two gas cans and replace my cube secondary 5gal water jug. I had no problems finding the water cans but couldn't find fuel cans anywhere.
After several MORE hours of surfing I found out that in 2008 CA passed a law that fuel containers have to be C.A.R.B. compliant. So, it's now illegal to sell, buy or own a non-CARB compliant fuel container in CA. Wonderful. Still didn't explain why I couldn't find anything outside CA, though.
More surfing later ... The Feds passed most of the same stuff in 2012. Minus the 'its illegal to own a non-CARB gas can' part.
So, its no longer legal to sell or buy fuel containers that don't meet some stupid evaporative emissions regulations. And that's why you can't buy new Scepter military 'jerry' cans. Scepter is a Canadian company and ceased exports of the true military fuel containers to the US to the public.
Now I know why I can't even find them at surplus stores. I couldn't find anything on the 'net other than a couple listings on eBay for what looks like remaining stock. I doubt that'll last long before someone catches up with them or they just flat run out.
I did manage to get a couple red (gasoline) containers for an insanely inflated price with associated hardware. Now I'm afraid to take them anywhere 'cause I'm sure I'll never be able to replace them. I'll have to get a couple long cable locks to secure them when they're unloaded and we're camped just to make sure they don't get stolen by someone just trying to get the containers.
Too bad you can't still get these reasonably. They're REALLY nice! The only extra I got was the T-bar for the caps. I've heard the stories of not being able to get the caps off if they get hot or you go up or down in altitude from military buddies.
Pangaea Expeditions - Scepter Military Fuel Cans
Edward
I'm heading out to the Maze in UT in a couple weeks and need to be able to carry extra fuel. The trip from Green River to the Maze and back is something like a 190 mile round trip and this doesn't count any wheeling to actually get INTO the Maze, side trips or just plain getting lost - which, of course, I NEVER do.
I've gone though a dozen cans in the last 20 years and they all leak. Some more than others, but they still all leak. I wanted a container that wasn't metal and wasn't going to leak when it start bouncing them around. So, after much surfing I came across the new US Military fuel and water containers. Yes, Jerry cans. But they've been redesigned and now their plastic and allegedly, unlike their former counterparts, don't leak.
Size is good for me and I figured I'd pick up two gas cans and replace my cube secondary 5gal water jug. I had no problems finding the water cans but couldn't find fuel cans anywhere.
After several MORE hours of surfing I found out that in 2008 CA passed a law that fuel containers have to be C.A.R.B. compliant. So, it's now illegal to sell, buy or own a non-CARB compliant fuel container in CA. Wonderful. Still didn't explain why I couldn't find anything outside CA, though.
More surfing later ... The Feds passed most of the same stuff in 2012. Minus the 'its illegal to own a non-CARB gas can' part.
So, its no longer legal to sell or buy fuel containers that don't meet some stupid evaporative emissions regulations. And that's why you can't buy new Scepter military 'jerry' cans. Scepter is a Canadian company and ceased exports of the true military fuel containers to the US to the public.
Now I know why I can't even find them at surplus stores. I couldn't find anything on the 'net other than a couple listings on eBay for what looks like remaining stock. I doubt that'll last long before someone catches up with them or they just flat run out.
I did manage to get a couple red (gasoline) containers for an insanely inflated price with associated hardware. Now I'm afraid to take them anywhere 'cause I'm sure I'll never be able to replace them. I'll have to get a couple long cable locks to secure them when they're unloaded and we're camped just to make sure they don't get stolen by someone just trying to get the containers.
Too bad you can't still get these reasonably. They're REALLY nice! The only extra I got was the T-bar for the caps. I've heard the stories of not being able to get the caps off if they get hot or you go up or down in altitude from military buddies.
Pangaea Expeditions - Scepter Military Fuel Cans
Edward