TIMBREN Suspension worth it? (Updated)

[AKumahMatata]

hello guys and gals, fellow MS luvers like myself!! so i've posted about getting new suspension for my Monty before and i got great responses. Still not upgraded yet. However, i came across this type of suspension call Timbren. ive never heard of it so maybe someone here has installed this on their MS or knows about them. These are supposed to provide additional support, handling which is what im looking for.

Problem: My MS sags a little in the back and doesnt holds any weight.

Timbren suspension: www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Suspension/Timbren/TDR1500DQ.html

- if these are worth it, since my MS sags a little, should i change the suspension and THEN add these Timbren in the rear?
- This is like the cheap alternative to getting EMU?

Im close to just buying the suspension for my MS either way i go. my wife is pregnant and the bumps and holes in NYC its not good for her. I must make a decision quick so any help will due!!

[AKumahMatata]

No one? i think ill be getting these. ill update you guys here of what difference it has made. That way if someone else is thinking about getting them, they get their info. stay tuned guys.

[AKumahMatata]

Ok so I've bought the Timbren suspension Kit for the Montero Sport. Its very easy to install. basically you raise the Monty, remove the old Bump stop in the rear, and install the Timbrens in the same place. The Timbren bump stops are WAY larger than the OEM bump stop of the Monty. they do make contact with rear frame, taking some of the load off the rear Springs (which i believe was at fault, being too soft or going bad). After the installation, i drove my Monty to my house, 4 Miles away from place of installation. On the way, i definitely felt my Monty "Bumpy" on holes and rough terrains of NYC. Kinda reminds me of when you rent a Moving truck. The bounces of the Timbrens are similar to that In my opinion.
Then, when close to my house, i asked a buddy of mines to ride in the back seat and tell me how it feels. i drove over the worst terrain i could find. he says, and i quote, "it feels amazing, like brand new suspensions. i was waiting for the slam" (my truck used to bottom out and slam often on holes, specially with 4 people on board).

Problem: Before Timbren
-Bottoms out often with 3 or more people onboard
-had a Slight Sag in the rear
After Timbren
-No bottoming/Slams in holes and rough Terrain
-Truck is more leveled
-Bumpy/a little stiff with no load

I have to ride the Timbrens for atleast 3 months to see if the "bumpy" feel is because the Timbren bump stops are brand new or that's just how the Timbren will operate. I also need to load it up with the same amount of people i had my Monty Bottom out/slam before the Timbrens for full review. So far, this is what i got. hope this helps anyone else thinking about these.

Truck View: www.dropbox.com/s/xrmt9g5fj3j2alf/Combined.jpg?dl=0 (Left is Before and Right After)
Install View: www.dropbox.com/s/wx5xeysmx0xpq4a/Install%20Compared.jpg?dl=0
With Truck on the floor: www.dropbox.com/s/wuqj05qestee5q8/Weight%20on%20it.jpg?dl=0 (hard to take a picture)

[Naeos_Valkarian]

Mar 10, 2017 23:46:19 GMT -5 AKumahMatata said:

Ok so I've bought the Timbren suspension Kit for the Montero Sport. Its very easy to install. basically you raise the Monty, remove the old Bump stop in the rear, and install the Timbrens in the same place. The Timbren bump stops are WAY larger than the OEM bump stop of the Monty. they do make contact with rear frame, taking some of the load off the rear Springs (which i believe was at fault, being too soft or going bad). After the installation, i drove my Monty to my house, 4 Miles away from place of installation. On the way, i definitely felt my Monty "Bumpy" on holes and rough terrains of NYC. Kinda reminds me of when you rent a Moving truck. The bounces of the Timbrens are similar to that In my opinion.
Then, when close to my house, i asked a buddy of mines to ride in the back seat and tell me how it feels. i drove over the worst terrain i could find. he says, and i quote, "it feels amazing, like brand new suspensions. i was waiting for the slam" (my truck used to bottom out and slam often on holes, specially with 4 people on board).

Problem: Before Timbren
-Bottoms out often with 3 or more people onboard
-had a Slight Sag in the rear
After Timbren
-No bottoming/Slams in holes and rough Terrain
-Truck is more leveled
-Bumpy/a little stiff with no load

I have to ride the Timbrens for atleast 3 months to see if the "bumpy" feel is because the Timbren bump stops are brand new or that's just how the Timbren will operate. I also need to load it up with the same amount of people i had my Monty Bottom out/slam before the Timbrens for full review. So far, this is what i got. hope this helps anyone else thinking about these.

Truck View: www.dropbox.com/s/xrmt9g5fj3j2alf/Combined.jpg?dl=0 (Left is Before and Right After)
Install View: www.dropbox.com/s/wx5xeysmx0xpq4a/Install%20Compared.jpg?dl=0
With Truck on the floor: www.dropbox.com/s/wuqj05qestee5q8/Weight%20on%20it.jpg?dl=0 (hard to take a picture)

It sounds like you need new shocks as well, If you are bottoming out that easily you should look into getting those replaced. You would be quite surprised the difference new shocks can make. I was having the same issue until I changed my rear shocks. I put KYB Excel-G's in the back and Gabriel Max Control in the front.

[AKumahMatata]

Mar 11, 2017 4:40:17 GMT -5 Naeos_Valkarian said:

Mar 10, 2017 23:46:19 GMT -5 AKumahMatata said:

Ok so I've bought the Timbren suspension Kit for the Montero Sport. Its very easy to install. basically you raise the Monty, remove the old Bump stop in the rear, and install the Timbrens in the same place. The Timbren bump stops are WAY larger than the OEM bump stop of the Monty. they do make contact with rear frame, taking some of the load off the rear Springs (which i believe was at fault, being too soft or going bad). After the installation, i drove my Monty to my house, 4 Miles away from place of installation. On the way, i definitely felt my Monty "Bumpy" on holes and rough terrains of NYC. Kinda reminds me of when you rent a Moving truck. The bounces of the Timbrens are similar to that In my opinion.
Then, when close to my house, i asked a buddy of mines to ride in the back seat and tell me how it feels. i drove over the worst terrain i could find. he says, and i quote, "it feels amazing, like brand new suspensions. i was waiting for the slam" (my truck used to bottom out and slam often on holes, specially with 4 people on board).

Problem: Before Timbren
-Bottoms out often with 3 or more people onboard
-had a Slight Sag in the rear
After Timbren
-No bottoming/Slams in holes and rough Terrain
-Truck is more leveled
-Bumpy/a little stiff with no load

I have to ride the Timbrens for atleast 3 months to see if the "bumpy" feel is because the Timbren bump stops are brand new or that's just how the Timbren will operate. I also need to load it up with the same amount of people i had my Monty Bottom out/slam before the Timbrens for full review. So far, this is what i got. hope this helps anyone else thinking about these.

Truck View: www.dropbox.com/s/xrmt9g5fj3j2alf/Combined.jpg?dl=0 (Left is Before and Right After)
Install View: www.dropbox.com/s/wx5xeysmx0xpq4a/Install%20Compared.jpg?dl=0
With Truck on the floor: www.dropbox.com/s/wuqj05qestee5q8/Weight%20on%20it.jpg?dl=0 (hard to take a picture)

It sounds like you need new shocks as well, If you are bottoming out that easily you should look into getting those replaced. You would be quite surprised the difference new shocks can make. I was having the same issue until I changed my rear shocks. I put KYB Excel-G's in the back and Gabriel Max Control in the front.

i agree! but people keep telling me that the shocks werent at fault since its a weight issue, the culprit to blame was the springs. i knew i shouldve changed them. i actually will change it now also. When i looked at the shocks when i raised her, they didnt look aftermarket but most importantly they looked alil rusty. things like that make uneasy. Specially since i carry my family around. i was looking at the blisteins before. but i've hear of the Kyb's too. Once recently caught my attention, for the front(forgot the brand), it said it was adjustable. what are your thoughts on those?

[Naeos_Valkarian]

Mar 11, 2017 11:20:16 GMT -5 AKumahMatata said:

Mar 11, 2017 4:40:17 GMT -5 Naeos_Valkarian said:

It sounds like you need new shocks as well, If you are bottoming out that easily you should look into getting those replaced. You would be quite surprised the difference new shocks can make. I was having the same issue until I changed my rear shocks. I put KYB Excel-G's in the back and Gabriel Max Control in the front.

i agree! but people keep telling me that the shocks werent at fault since its a weight issue, the culprit to blame was the springs. i knew i shouldve changed them. i actually will change it now also. When i looked at the shocks when i raised her, they didnt look aftermarket but most importantly they looked alil rusty. things like that make uneasy. Specially since i carry my family around. i was looking at the blisteins before. but i've hear of the Kyb's too. Once recently caught my attention, for the front(forgot the brand), it said it was adjustable. what are your thoughts on those?

I can only say that the Excel-G's are nice, bumps and pot holes aren't nearly as bad anymore. The Gabriel max control shocks I'd say are close to stock as far as I can tell. I don't have a lot of experience with shocks so I don't want to mislead you as there may be better options out there. Edward and BD could probably tell you more.

[AKumahMatata]

Mar 11, 2017 17:21:04 GMT -5 Naeos_Valkarian said:

Mar 11, 2017 11:20:16 GMT -5 AKumahMatata said:

i agree! but people keep telling me that the shocks werent at fault since its a weight issue, the culprit to blame was the springs. i knew i shouldve changed them. i actually will change it now also. When i looked at the shocks when i raised her, they didnt look aftermarket but most importantly they looked alil rusty. things like that make uneasy. Specially since i carry my family around. i was looking at the blisteins before. but i've hear of the Kyb's too. Once recently caught my attention, for the front(forgot the brand), it said it was adjustable. what are your thoughts on those?

I can only say that the Excel-G's are nice, bumps and pot holes aren't nearly as bad anymore. The Gabriel max control shocks I'd say are close to stock as far as I can tell. I don't have a lot of experience with shocks so I don't want to mislead you as there may be better options out there. Edward and BD could probably tell you more.

oh cool, then those are the ones im looking for. thanks for your input:)

[AKumahMatata]

Hey just for anyone thinking of getting these for extra support, the timbrens are awesome!! they are alittle bouncy even with new shocks (i upgraded shocks after timbren install and saw the difference but still a tad bouncy). they actually feel better when you have heavy weight on the suspension which was my problem before purchasing. Doesnt bottom out like stock suspension does on heavy weight. overall if you are faced with heavy weight on your MS and need support, the timbrens work great.

-Wrenchettes