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Post by challenger on Jun 17, 2005 7:02:11 GMT -5
Hey Tony. Saw this on eBay. Is this the answer? cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=photo&item=7981002235&category=46098Hmmmmm! Any ideas? Dave i was wondering if it is possible to put a 3000gt head on my MS block. i know that the engine sits the oppistite, but with alittle fabrication, will it fit? i know the block is the same (6G72), so the head should mount up right? also could i use the pistons out of it as well to get some higher compression? i am in the planning stage of building a monster. need some info, thanks. ~tony
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Post by cwic on Sept 23, 2005 20:03:14 GMT -5
well, in talking to someone who works on mitsu's I learned that alot of 3000gt owners are taking their heads and putting them on the 3.5L block to give them lower compression ratios and more displacement to work with when the they put 1 or 2 turbos in their cars. Sounds like something that could eaisly and has been done with the help of a piggyback. clay
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Post by cwic on Oct 2, 2005 11:11:29 GMT -5
I went back to IPS motorsports to get my truck (no dyno results yet and I am done with passen or auto exotica due to dyno runs with18/1 air to fuel ratio and bouncing off the rev limiter). They(IPS) had a white 3000gt VR4 Spyder on their lot. My jaw dropped, never seen one of those before and deff not 1 with 500+hp. Clay
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Post by osmosis on Oct 21, 2005 16:31:33 GMT -5
A 3000GT uses 6G72, but there are FWD and AWD versions of it. I just had some correspondance with trippmods.com today, and I asked them about the MS' version of the 6G72 and the others. They said the 6G72 on the MS is mounted straight, allowing the vehicle to be RWD, whereas on the other cars, they are mounted sideways. My question is: Can a 6G72 from a 3000GT be dropped straight into an MS and run it as a 4WD?
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Post by cwic on Oct 23, 2005 9:48:18 GMT -5
I dont know but if u were going to go the route of dropping a engine in why not go with the 6g74 with the heads from the 3000gt put on them. As I said it will give u more displacement to wotk with. u can also get the heads ported and pollished with a set of stage 1 cams already in them from RPW. Clay
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Post by DSM on Feb 14, 2006 23:48:29 GMT -5
wow there's a lot of mis information going on in here. Let me start by saying i've been into mitsu's for a very long time, all mine however have been All Wheel Drive cars, my current Galant VR4 is a daily driven 12 second car. I've done a lot of work on 3000gt's over the years as well the day i decided to get a 6g72 powered montero the thought crossed my mind about the DOHC swap, then in came the thoughts about twin turbo montero. but lets start at the basics. the 6g72 in the 3000gt's is mounted sideways, it's all wheel drive via a center diff and transfer case (transfer case feeds rear drive shaft) these engines are great platforms to work with. mounting the DOHC heads to the montero would require a little exhaust work, but nothing major, the timing belt from a 3kgt would work fine on the montero. I'm not sure what the montero uses for a timing sensor yet but the 3kgt's use a cam angle sensor, all of this would work fine with a little work ok on to the more fun stuff people with nonturbo 6g72's in the 3kgt SL's (10:1 compression) have been bolting on the factory turbo set up from the twin turbo 3kgt's and running stock boost on 93 octane with little tuning required. the sizeable injectors could be sorced from eclipses, galants, evo's etc. or bought new, the fuel tuning could be tricked with an SAFC, the fuel supply is as simple as a walbro 255. The only problem i see with putting a simple twin turbo set up on the montero is that the automatic tranny retards timing between shifts. HOWEVER i've built stand alone push button shifters for automatic mitsubishi transmissions (locks pressure at high, controls shift solenoids, combined with a shift kit it makes for a very fun drive) which render the stock TCU completely useless so i guess that wouldnt be a problem at all. Now the question comes, who's going to be the first to do it? -Josh
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Post by cwic on Feb 16, 2006 10:56:16 GMT -5
mis info? the cam position sensor on the ms is on the cam gear. but if swaping the heads that does not matter. the biggest prob with doing it is the master cylinder pump. but there are now pumps/ mastre cyl made to be mounted in the framrails. all can be done but 4 buku bucks. Clay
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Post by DSM on Feb 19, 2006 11:59:05 GMT -5
mis info? the cam position sensor on the ms is on the cam gear. but if swaping the heads that does not matter. the biggest prob with doing it is the bell housing. but there are now housings made to be mounted in the framrails. all can be done but 4 buku bucks. Clay I'm afraid i dont understand, what problem does the bell housing create? I'm refering to using the stock MS block with DOHC heads/turbos etc. as for the cam sensor, it's simple to rewire one to match the 3kgt ones. The mis information i was refering to was the little facts about the 3kgt's such as the engine sitting like the MS's engine.
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Post by cwic on Feb 19, 2006 12:07:12 GMT -5
mis info gotcah. the heads are so wide that they will hit the bell housing if they were to be installed on the ms. Clay
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Post by DSM on Feb 19, 2006 12:14:47 GMT -5
mis info gotcah. the heads are so wide that they will hit the bell housing if they were to be installed on the ms. Clay that seems wierd... i dont get it.. sounds like something i need to look into. but thank god for grinders. hahaha.
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Post by cwic on Feb 19, 2006 12:18:32 GMT -5
well i think slkdragons aka tony has a set and said they will be very tight if they do fit. the one on the driver side is the prob. pop ur hood and check it out. i dont have the heads or covers in hand but ive seen them and it doesnt look good as fas as clearence. clay
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Post by s1ckdrag0ns on Mar 29, 2006 8:55:01 GMT -5
well everyone the monent all have been waiting for, I will start tearin into the MS tommarow to begin the big transformation. DOHC on a MS!!!!! and dont worry there will be plenty of pics and, what im not lookin forward to, a whole lot of explaining. Im basically goin alot on therory but i to have owned a lot of Mitsubishi's and worked on all of them myself so im just going to dig in and make it work. I will keep you all updated. Talk to you soon.
~Tony
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Post by cwic on Mar 29, 2006 20:01:09 GMT -5
good luck! Are u back in the states?
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Post by s1ckdrag0ns on Mar 30, 2006 6:41:15 GMT -5
yeah been back for a alittle bit but had to do a state-side deployment for awhile so havent had any time for anything. but im ready to dive in now and ill keep you updated.
~Tony
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Post by s1ckdrag0ns on Apr 18, 2006 18:59:26 GMT -5
well it looks like its not going to work :-( the inside cam cam gears hit the thermostat housing. but more to come. im still thinkin of solutions. might jsut put the housing on the Transmission side like the 3000gt if it will fit. also it looks like the power streering pump bracket wont fit either. well ive got alot more research to do so. ill keep yall updated.
~Tony
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