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Post by ES_97Sport on Mar 14, 2014 17:03:04 GMT -5
... I have read several others tuners that did have problems, along with several off-road score racers that were turned off by the primitive oil filter technology. I like all kinds of 'primitive ... technology'. Because it works, and works well. Just 'cause something's new, doesn't make it better than what it replaced. Did you read my post? "One splash and you can kiss a paper element good bye." I said, 'paper element'. Are the dryflow's paper? No. Edward
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Post by tbaltazar411 on Mar 14, 2014 19:18:53 GMT -5
... I have read several others tuners that did have problems, along with several off-road score racers that were turned off by the primitive oil filter technology. I like all kinds of 'primitive ... technology'. Because it works, and works well. Just 'cause something's new, doesn't make it better than what it replaced. Did you read my post? "One splash and you can kiss a paper element good bye." I said, 'paper element'. Are the dryflow's paper? No. Edward I did read it, I must have misunderstood your comment, it seemed as though you were implying the dryflow was paper..... hey its all good.... I think I misread a lot of your comments because they way you come off
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Post by uge on Nov 19, 2015 1:31:15 GMT -5
Does sucking in hot air from engine hurt in the long run.Wouldn't it be better to install a hood scoop above where the filter sits?
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Post by pinstryper on Nov 19, 2015 8:25:45 GMT -5
Well cold moist air makes any engine seem to run better. Its a expansion issue. I was going to build a plastic system but ran across the below in the local yard, so going to give it a shot. Let you know how it works out, though the prefilter/sock seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Nov 25, 2015 20:31:14 GMT -5
Does sucking in hot air from engine hurt in the long run.Wouldn't it be better to install a hood scoop above where the filter sits? Yes, no, maybe, sometimes, it depends. There is no short answer for your question. You want warm air when the engine is warming up. Cold air when its running full throttle. Coolish or warmish (depending on conditions) air when its cruising. Its all dependent on conditions and it would take an entire air induction system to actually do this 'correctly'. Having the open element in the bay isn't perfect but it won't hurt anything. The only thing sucking hot air does is decrease performance. The performance improvement from removing the stock box and doing a 2.25" exhaust is more than you loose from the open element so you still come out ahead. I've run mine from -30F to +105F ambient temps. I can tell the difference between sucking really cold air vs hot air when the ambient temps go up, but its not a huge difference. Nowhere near enough to make me want to do through the hassle of doing an induction system. Hood scoops only work if they're put in the correct location. You can not put a scoop just anywhere - as the manufacturers found out about 40 years ago. Just because you put a scoop on your car doesn't mean you'll get air in the engine bay. And you're back to the same problem with cold air inductions. You have to keep water, ice, snow, mud, slush, etc. out. You can't do like the racers and just run the induction and leave it. We have to drive through rain and crap. So, in theory yes it'd be better, but putting it into practice IMHO isn't worth the effort. Edward
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Post by ES_97Sport on Nov 25, 2015 20:40:27 GMT -5
Well cold moist air makes any engine seem to run better. Its a expansion issue. .... No, its a density and cooling issue. Cold - denser - air contains more oxygen. The moisture in the air cools the intake tract and cylinder keeping the cold, dense air, well, cold and dense. Edward
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Post by bdmontero on Nov 25, 2015 22:05:42 GMT -5
I know after my snorkel install I get more MPG and it runs a little stronger. Maybe 20-30 more miles out of a tank.
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Post by pinstryper on Nov 26, 2015 16:38:19 GMT -5
That's probably the ram air effect?
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Post by bdmontero on Nov 26, 2015 18:57:36 GMT -5
Maybe. Colder and denser I guess. I like knowing if things get HAIRY I can go through it. If I HAVE to. Lol
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Post by ES_97Sport on Nov 27, 2015 13:52:40 GMT -5
That's probably the ram air effect? No, there's very little if any 'ram' affect from a snorkel. That's just not how they're designed. BD is correct. Just cooler, denser air. I'm not a snorkel fan because of the environments I wheel in. I only have three significant rivers: the Delores, Colorado and South Platte. Only the Delores has an open water crossing left. Anything else would be dealing with flooding and with the filter almost 5' off the ground anything that deep would be running too fast to cross anyway. And then there's just tearing it off on trees, brush and the random rock wall. But, if you were REALLY wanting to get cooler air to the engine and not have an open element in the bay, this is by far the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish that. Edward
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Post by pinstryper on Nov 28, 2015 14:15:53 GMT -5
Was actually a joke guys, though it might come in handy with the flooding we often get in Houston
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Post by tdub1966 on May 10, 2016 18:17:54 GMT -5
Well I have a K&N stock filter and a K&N cone filter for my short ram intake, honestly I can't tell any difference in power or mpg's filters alone I have spent over 100 bucks. I don't see any real improvement so I say just don't buy the crap filters. Stick with Fram I had ordered a K&N filter for my 01 Sport LS 3.0 while waiting, I went and did some plumbing with some smooth polished aluminum air intake tube and couplers and with some modifications was able to incorporate the Air Flow sensor so the engine light wouldn't keep lighting my dash up. Thus, I bought another K&N filter to fit what I had done. Immediately noticed a big difference in throttle response and pick up. The sound is a little better as well. The air box is in the garage but I did utilize a bracket to mount/brace with. I was trying to figure a way to modify the air box so to keep any water from possibly splashing up but... not worrying with that. I guess now the have bolt on kits for about $250. I spent about $60-$75 when all said and done with extra parts to spare. LOL never know when you might need those...
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Post by dirk on May 10, 2016 18:25:52 GMT -5
I've been staring at my old air box and trying to figure out if I csn incorporate it into making it a cold air intake. I bought the hydro sock for my ingen. I actually spent the 180 for it, would rather have done a DIY project, but knew I had a ton of DIY mods to do. And at the time had a 17 year old senior in high school, almost 3 year old, and a new born. I knew DIY was out of time budget lol.
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Post by tdub1966 on May 10, 2016 18:38:54 GMT -5
Yeah its just the name, I just attached a cone intake onto my stock setup with a MAF adapter plate, 13 bucks I put together my own cold air using parts off the shelf and a K&N cone filter for around $65-70 bucks. I noticed a difference in throttle response and the sound is pretty good as well lol. I quess you can buy these now for around $250 or so....
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