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Post by bdmontero on Jul 9, 2013 16:05:31 GMT -5
Thanks;D I wheeled a little this weekend. Nothing serious. Ya monty98 your rig is getting there;D I am real picky on what goes on mine. OCD kicks in;D
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Post by monty98 on Jul 10, 2013 12:39:54 GMT -5
Yea piece by piece. We were going to take it out to Colorado but gas is too much so just taking the car and enjoying the parks and camping. Oh well always later this year too.
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Post by bdmontero on Jul 10, 2013 12:58:02 GMT -5
Ya my wife and I are contemplating a CNG conversion on the optima. ;D No reason to pay someone 4$ a gallon for something you can get for 1.00 here in ok. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by 6500rpm on Jun 15, 2014 13:49:09 GMT -5
Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll necro this one. I've got a 97 MS with a 2" body lift that's my every day driver. At 240K now it's still running like a champ so it's going to be a bit of a toy. I recently added 33"x 10.50x15" BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's and with the higher stance I was considering the 1 1/2" spacers for center of gravity concerns only. Chances are it's never going seriously off road but I need to make it to work no matter how bad the weather (yeah, that's really my justification). My concern is that it's pretty much a stock LS and didn't know if any of you that run spacers have had any bearing issues or any found concerns since the thread started. I'm a new car tech by trade but unfortunately I've traded my car hobby for a firearms hobby 20+ years ago and find myself a bit out of the loop....
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Post by ES_97Sport on Jun 16, 2014 12:27:59 GMT -5
Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll necro this one. I've got a 97 MS with a 2" body lift that's my every day driver. At 240K now it's still running like a champ so it's going to be a bit of a toy. I recently added 33"x 10.50x15" BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's and with the higher stance I was considering the 1 1/2" spacers for center of gravity concerns only. Chances are it's never going seriously off road but I need to make it to work no matter how bad the weather (yeah, that's really my justification). My concern is that it's pretty much a stock LS and didn't know if any of you that run spacers have had any bearing issues or any found concerns since the thread started. .... Widening the stance is a good idea. Even as much as 1-1.5" each side makes a big difference in stability on the highway as well as off road. Personally, I don't like wheel spacers. IMHO, if you're going to do this then do it right. Get different rims. All spacers are is a band-aid. Either one, however, will put more stress on the bearings and steering parts. That's just how it is. There will be increased maintenance on the front and rear wheel bearings and steering components - how much from the tires and how much from the spacers, I don't know, but both are going to lead to a lot more wear and tear. Unless you have absolutely no budget at all to allocate to replacing parts once every year or two, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I still don't like spacers. They're a liability. If anything - God forbid - would ever happen to a wheel or steering and cause an accident on the highway, the first thing people are going to start pointing at are the spacers. Irrespective of whether they had anything to do with anything. Anyway, besides that, I'd make sure you actually can pull the wheels out that far in the first place. The 2" body lift should help, but life is gonna suck if you stuff a tire and rip a fender out or slice a tire. Edward
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Post by bdmontero on Jun 16, 2014 14:39:55 GMT -5
Plus one on no spacers. I got different rims and tires. Spacers would be a huge liability. To me their a weak link. At the least.
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Post by colted on Jun 21, 2014 16:58:13 GMT -5
Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll necro this one. I've got a 97 MS with a 2" body lift that's my every day driver. At 240K now it's still running like a champ so it's going to be a bit of a toy. I recently added 33"x 10.50x15" BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's and with the higher stance I was considering the 1 1/2" spacers for center of gravity concerns only. Chances are it's never going seriously off road but I need to make it to work no matter how bad the weather (yeah, that's really my justification). My concern is that it's pretty much a stock LS and didn't know if any of you that run spacers have had any bearing issues or any found concerns since the thread started. .... Widening the stance is a good idea. Even as much as 1-1.5" each side makes a big difference in stability on the highway as well as off road. Personally, I don't like wheel spacers. IMHO, if you're going to do this then do it right. Get different rims. All spacers are is a band-aid. Either one, however, will put more stress on the bearings and steering parts. That's just how it is. There will be increased maintenance on the front and rear wheel bearings and steering components - how much from the tires and how much from the spacers, I don't know, but both are going to lead to a lot more wear and tear. Unless you have absolutely no budget at all to allocate to replacing parts once every year or two, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I still don't like spacers. They're a liability. If anything - God forbid - would ever happen to a wheel or steering and cause an accident on the highway, the first thing people are going to start pointing at are the spacers. Irrespective of whether they had anything to do with anything. Anyway, besides that, I'd make sure you actually can pull the wheels out that far in the first place. The 2" body lift should help, but life is gonna suck if you stuff a tire and rip a fender out or slice a tire. Edward Ditto on this.....had 1.5 in spacers to fit in some 20" chrome wheel set, had it for a week then took them off, put back OEM wheels....sold them in craigslist......found that wheel bearings are heavly stressed and had put too much strain on the steering as well....never felt comfortable driving my monty with them on the wheels, felt like anytime they would come off...LOL!
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Post by ES_97Sport on Jun 27, 2014 13:32:12 GMT -5
... ....never felt comfortable driving my monty with them on the wheels, felt like anytime they would come off...LOL! Yea, widening the wheel base by changing back spacing does change the way it steers. I went from the stock width to the SAS with 1.5" out a side, but that was done by widening the actual axle width. Not the same thing as changing backspacing. But, when I had the last set of rims built, I changed the backspacing to move the wheels out a little more to increase stability off road. That did change how it steers a little so now it feels a bit different. Not bad, just different. I don't have as much of an issue with wheel bearings and wear and tear and such with the big GM outers on the 44s, at least. Edward
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Post by beel82 on Aug 22, 2014 13:33:45 GMT -5
I have been considering these for my 01 Montero Sport I just bought. Im not fond of the body roll around corners and want to know about actual stability improvement when cornering. Can anyone speak to this? If there is a night and day difference then I would be willing to buy the 1.25" or 1.5" spacers. If its not that much of an improvement then I would rather pass. Can anyone provide feedback on the stability improvement? Thanks!
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Post by tbaltazar411 on Aug 22, 2014 21:59:51 GMT -5
The biggest difference I noticed was when I got a good set of tires, reduced body roll tremendously, but also sacrificed some ride comfort, (worth it for me though).... That's why they sold balloon tires with it originally. Comfy ride, but lots of body rolllllllllll........
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Post by captainmcjedi on Sept 11, 2014 17:22:06 GMT -5
I've got a set of 2" spacers from Rough Country on my '05 Tahoe, that have held up nicely for a couple of years now. I just got them for the looks... it never goes off road. But I did have a wheel bearing go bad about a year after I put them on (Around 150k miles) because of the extra leverage on them from the wider stance. On Tahoes, they usually give out after 200k anyway. All that to say: I'm sure it depends on your driving habits as to how long your bearings last. Spacers definitely add more stress, and I'd guess that most of us have broken 100k miles on our Monty's. Might be something you want to prepare for if you want that wider stance. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can comment, but I thought if you changed the stance on any factory spec axle, whether its spacers or wheels, it still puts stress on the bearings? And as for body roll, I doubt there would be much of a noticeable difference with just spacers if you have stock suspension. You'd have to go with stiffer rear springs, and tighten up your torsion bars. Also check your sway bar links and bushings. They're bound to be rotted if you've got a lot of roll. Oh and speaking of body rolls: www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGASome things you just can't un-see.
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Post by jay4x4 on Sept 20, 2014 22:34:09 GMT -5
I've got a set of 2" spacers from Rough Country on my '05 Tahoe, that have held up nicely for a couple of years now. I just got them for the looks... it never goes off road. But I did have a wheel bearing go bad about a year after I put them on (Around 150k miles) because of the extra leverage on them from the wider stance. On Tahoes, they usually give out after 200k anyway. All that to say: I'm sure it depends on your driving habits as to how long your bearings last. Spacers definitely add more stress, and I'd guess that most of us have broken 100k miles on our Monty's. Might be something you want to prepare for if you want that wider stance. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can comment, but I thought if you changed the stance on any factory spec axle, whether its spacers or wheels, it still puts stress on the bearings? And as for body roll, I doubt there would be much of a noticeable difference with just spacers if you have stock suspension. You'd have to go with stiffer rear springs, and tighten up your torsion bars. Also check your sway bar links and bushings. They're bound to be rotted if you've got a lot of roll. Oh and speaking of body rolls: www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGASome things you just can't un-see. Wow...lol
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 2, 2014 18:30:52 GMT -5
I have been considering these for my 01 Montero Sport I just bought. Im not fond of the body roll around corners and want to know about actual stability improvement when cornering. "Body roll" - where the sprung weight (body) shifts independently of the un-sprung weight (drivetrain). Two totally different things. Widening the wheel base will NOT, EVER, in any way, shape or form, change BODY ROLL. In order to change this you have to change the rate of the anti-roll (sway) bars or springs or both. The stability improvement from widening the wheel base is mostly felt - and relevant - to people who off road their Sports. Not that this is Sport specific - this applies to ALL vehicle makes and models. In simple terms, its much harder to tip something over on its side that is very wide than it is with something that's very narrow. The only relevancy that this has on the street is that its harder to roll a wide vehicle. If you drive the way you're supposed to, this isn't a problem. Edward
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