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Post by fury853 on Oct 25, 2012 9:24:34 GMT -5
I am currently working on putting a 2 inch OME lift on my 2000 MS. I want to bring the wheels and tires out some to make them even with the fender flares. I wouldnt mind getting bigger wheels. But, my worry is lossing power in my 3.0 engine. I found some 16x8 wheels that would work with my 265 70 r16 tires. If i go with the 16x8 wheels will I lose any power? I have also thought about wheel spacers. How well do these work on a MS? Anyone have any advise or any pictures of your MS?
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 31, 2012 20:14:41 GMT -5
I am currently working on putting a 2 inch OME lift on my 2000 MS. I want to bring the wheels and tires out some to make them even with the fender flares. I wouldnt mind getting bigger wheels. But, my worry is lossing power in my 3.0 engine. I found some 16x8 wheels that would work with my 265 70 r16 tires. If i go with the 16x8 wheels will I lose any power? I have also thought about wheel spacers. How well do these work on a MS? Anyone have any advise or any pictures of your MS? Unless this is a street only vehicle, DO NOT DO THAT! You'll loose a good chunk of travel if you can't stuff the tire and believe me, the amount you'll loose isn't trivial on an IFS vehicle. Choose your rim backspacing and width and your tire carcass shape and tread design carefully. Keep in mind that moving the tire out, while increasing the tire size causes clearance issues when you turn the front wheels. So, unless you want to create clearance issues you didn't even know could exist, don't use spacers and keep the wheels in where they'll still stuff into the wheel well. Actually, just stay away from wheel spacers period. Bad ju-ju. Going from a 16x7 to a 16x8 with the same size tire will be unnoticeable. Going from a all season to a A/T to a M/T will be noticeable even if its the same size tire/rim combo. YMMV depending on the aggressiveness and carcass design of the A/T and M/T. More aggressive/less aggressive, stiffer/softer carcass, directional vs. non-directional - all makes a difference. My 35" Yoko Geolander M/Ts do really well as far as not sucking power but the same size MT/R is a gas and power sucking mess. Make your tire choice very carefully if you're worried about MPG and power. In general, if all you're taking into consideration is the side increase, tires up to about 32" won't make an appreciable difference in gas mileage or seat-of-the-pants power. Once you hit 33"s with their corresponding increase in width - then you definitely start to notice. The higher in altitude you go, the worse it is. Going from 31"s to 33"s here in Denver is a BIG thing - not so much at sea level. My recommendation would be to stick with 32"s and call it a day. 33"s will not fit with just an OME lift, anyway. Edward www.4x4extremesports.com
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Post by modded99montero on Jan 15, 2013 0:06:53 GMT -5
well i have a 44mm offset on my 31s om 15 x 10 rims and they dont suck power at all and look FATT
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Post by modded99montero on Jan 15, 2013 0:11:27 GMT -5
and if you are worried about gas mileage i recomend getting a aero turbine muffler 2525xl it increased my gas milage by 25% and still sounds like a mean off roader
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Post by adrian47 on Jan 26, 2013 10:00:51 GMT -5
and if you are worried about gas mileage i recomend getting a aero turbine muffler 2525xl it increased my gas milage by 25% and still sounds like a mean off roader I have also lil bit problem with gas mileage. And are you sure aero turbine muffler work good and solve the problem??
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Post by modded99montero on Jan 26, 2013 13:37:47 GMT -5
the Aero Turbine mufflers are engineered to increase the flow of exhaust gas through the muffler cylinder by creating a venturi force that actually pulls the exhaust away from the engine, letting it asperate freely. This increases fuel economy by about a 15%, some as much as 50% depending on application. Another benefit is that this dramatically increases performance and longevity by taking work off the engine. Aeroturbine Performance Mufflers reduce the overall effect of exhaust gas temperatures, making it safe to add other performance modifications and run more power. The compact size muffler allows room for other performance exhaust modifications. that also makes you engine run at lower rpms and last longer because of the load taken off your engine When i installed mine is a cintch because the 2525xl is actually losger then the stock muffler so all you need are exhaust reducers a welder and something to cut the old one out with.
my gas milage was 11mpg at one point and it was killing me!! now i am running at 16-18mph with more power!
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Post by ES_97Sport on Jan 30, 2013 15:22:43 GMT -5
the Aero Turbine mufflers are engineered to increase the flow of exhaust gas through the muffler cylinder by creating a venturi force that actually pulls the exhaust away from the engine, letting it asperate freely. This increases fuel economy by about a 15%, some as much as 50% depending on application. Another benefit is that this dramatically increases performance and longevity by taking work off the engine. Aeroturbine Performance Mufflers reduce the overall effect of exhaust gas temperatures, making it safe to add other performance modifications and run more power. The compact size muffler allows room for other performance exhaust modifications. that also makes you engine run at lower rpms and last longer because of the load taken off your engine When i installed mine is a cintch because the 2525xl is actually losger then the stock muffler so all you need are exhaust reducers a welder and something to cut the old one out with. my gas milage was 11mpg at one point and it was killing me!! now i am running at 16-18mph with more power! Quoted product marketing BS. I'm not even going to try to explain eveything that's wrong in that statement. "Mufflers reduce the overall effect of exhaust gas temperatures, making it safe to add other performance modifications and run more power. The compact size muffler allows room for other performance exhaust modifications. that also makes you engine run at lower rpms and last longer because of the load taken off your engine " Seriously?!?? Replacing the stock muffler with another muffler WILL NOT - EVER - do what you said unless there is something wrong with the stock muffler in the first place. The stock muffler may be nothing to write home about but it's not even close to that bad. 11 Mpg tells me you had a BIG problem. I don't get 11 Mpg on my SAS'd '97 3.0L with 35"s loaded up for Moab at 6800 lbs. driving into a head wind. We've never gotten that kind of mileage even when testing 35"s on a otherwise stock 3.0L '98 with the automatic. 11 Mpg means on a good tank @ 17.5 gallons you'd get 192.5 miles. My SAS'd Sport hits between 290 and 310 miles per tank @5500 ft. altitude. If anyone is getting less than 250-260 miles per tank, they have issues that need to be addressed and it has NOTHING to do with any of the stock parts. Edward www.4x4extremesports.com
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