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Post by youdntknowme23 on Feb 11, 2005 13:35:48 GMT -5
what up guys -
again, i will sound like all the other newbs to the site when i say sorry if asking this question is like beating a dead horse. i read thru most of the threads and still have not gotten my questions answered, which is why i will ask now:
I have a 2001 MS Limited with the Infinity system. I have an Alpine HU from about a year and a half ago, fairly new....2 10" MTXs...and a 800W Pyramid amp. my question is this. i have taken my ride to a bunch of places, i.e. Best Buy, Circuit City, Tweeter, Sound Experience....and the consensus i seem to be getting is that, to install my system, i would need to rewire all my speakers and such (Best Buy, Circuit City)...or just get new speakers all around, and THEN rewire (Tweeter). Tweeter told me that i would need to get new speakers because they would blow or the HU would burn out or something like that. i just dont know. i mean, i installed my system into my previous car myself, but this Monty is just crazy. ive attempted, but would rather have a professional do it. now, what do i do, where do i go, what do i need so that i dont get screwed and just spend what i need to spend?
sorry bout the novel, but i figure i explain everything first. i would appreciate ANY advice. Thanks
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Post by brewster on Feb 11, 2005 19:30:18 GMT -5
I don't know your wiring question because my MS didn't have the Infinity system but you should really consider getting a good amp and ditching that Pyramid.
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Post by akramedog on Feb 11, 2005 21:23:50 GMT -5
All the places say to re-wire your stereo because the infinity systems use a factory amplifier. The general rule is you cant take an amplified (which your alpine is) signal and run it into another amplifier, it will more than likely over time burn up the seccond amp. Normally the best thing to do is buy new speakers and and run new speaker wire from your head unit to each speaker, but this is generally costly at a retail store. I run an a install bay for best buy and i tell people this all the time, its better for warrenty reasons just to let a shop do the work because if we break your car its our problem, but if you break your car doin it yourself then its YOUR problem.
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Post by youdntknowme23 on Feb 11, 2005 21:51:42 GMT -5
ok akramedog, so ur saying that i should get new speakers all around? like 6 or 8 or however many? and then rewire them back to the head unit....which is basically what the tweeter guy told me....now, by "shop" u mean like a best buy or tweeter, right? if they mess up my car, am i covered? this type of job i would never be able to do myself anyways, i realize that, which is why im inquiring. so, now the question is...which speakers will be the most cost efficient with good quality? if i just wired the stock infinity speakers back to my alpine HU, would there honestly be a problem? if so, i guess i have to get new speakers. just so lost right now......
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Post by youdntknowme23 on Feb 11, 2005 21:52:39 GMT -5
and i mean....anyone else who has installed an aftermarket system in their MS that came with infinity.....what did you guys do?
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Post by blovell on Feb 12, 2005 13:19:23 GMT -5
i'm not positive, but i think that there is a way to hook up your amp preouts on your aftermarket headunit to your factory amp. from what i've read on other posts it should just be a matter of buying another harness (in addition to the regular wiring harness). like i said . . . i'm not positive and haven't looked into it much myself since i don't have the infinity system, but that's my understanding from others on the board.
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Post by akramedog on Feb 12, 2005 21:48:53 GMT -5
Yes, thats exactly what im saying... Replace the speakers and run them off your head unit or an amp, whatever. I can only speak for Best Buy when I talk about being "covered", but yes if they/we mess your car up you are covered. Try a nice pair of component speakers in the front doors, the back are just plain ol' 6.5"s and I belive the speakers in the dash are 4". I used all rockford in my MS but alpine, pioneer, kenwood, infinity (if you wana spend some money) are all very nice speakers as well.
If you dont wana spend the money re-wiring the whole stereo, just hook it up and see how it sounds. If it sounds reall really bad when you turn it up them you know you need to bypass the stock infiity amp. Let me know how it works out.
AK
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Post by brewster on Feb 13, 2005 1:41:31 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, Alpine makes (or made) a head unit that didn't have an internal amp. You could possibly use one of those, it will be cheaper than buying 1000 speakers. How do the stock Infinity's sound, would it really be worth upgrading all the speakers?
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Post by youdntknowme23 on Feb 13, 2005 13:41:53 GMT -5
so if the HU does not have an internal amp, then i should be fine with just hooking that up? i would rather not have to buy all new speakers, as im prolly not gonna keep this car for more than 3 years...so it doesnt seem like a good investment. my goal is simply this. i want to hook up my alpine HU and my subs. i dont think i would ever be blasting my stock speakers to the point where it will burn out my HU, but if that is something that is just inevitable, i guess i would just get a new HU when the time comes. i just want to find a way to keep my stock speakers, hook up my head unit, and power my subs. if it means re-wiring...i can have that done. but buying a whole new set of speakers seems a bit much. i guess im asking if theres any way it could work, or if it would just be a pointless effort. sorry if i keep repeating myself, but this is just confusing.
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Post by akramedog on Feb 13, 2005 19:15:16 GMT -5
just hook it up and see how it sounds, ive done it before and if your not gonna have the car for that long then what does it really matter.... If the guys at the install shops wont do it then offer one of them like 20 bucks er somthin to do it on there own time.  AK |
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Post by sirlordoz on Feb 22, 2005 19:12:01 GMT -5
Ok this dont make any sence. i know me and the dog have bumped heads before but all that aside i dont understand the double amp thing. I have an alpine headunit with an amp. pushing out to another amp that is running all my fronts. no problems at all for over a year and a half.
Now if that is a problem and i just dont understand it why can u rewire the system by just running new speaker wire and bypass the factory amps.This way u can use the stock speakers and then use your headunit and the subs. The nice thing about this is all your wires can be pulled when u wanna sell and then plug the factory stuff back together. And it only cost ya the speaker wire, and if u have done systems before u should be able to do it yourself! saving big coin!
Just a thought!
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Post by Lumute on Feb 22, 2005 22:49:47 GMT -5
I dont know how you exactly plan to connect that pyramid amp and the speakers but I'm assuming this configuration: The pyramid amp is just for the MTXs and you want to connect the stock speakers directly to the amplified outputs of the HU. If so, then the solution is easy: just run the speakers cables to the back were the stock amp is (that way you dont have to rewire for each speaker tru doors, etc), you can see the exact location on this thread: msport97.proboards6.com/index.cgi?board=mobile&action=display&n=1&thread=5975Then unplug the harness that goes to the speakers from the amp, and connect the HU outputs to that harness bypassing the stock amp... It will be nice if you can find the other side of that harness, that will be a cleaner install... If you like the solution let me know, I will post a picture with the pinout of that harness so you know how to connect the speakers... If that not how you want to connect everything, post some more details of what do you want to do... |
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Post by akramedog on Feb 23, 2005 22:24:45 GMT -5
You can run new speaker wire to the speakers if ya want to thats probably how I would personally "bypass" the internal amp, thats what I said in a previous post. It might not even matter though, some infinity stereos dont need to be bypassed, just hook it up and see how it sounds...... If you dont think it sounds bad at a high volume, and its not all distorted then right on, no bypass needed. Its your car do what ya want with the stereo.
AK
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