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Post by redraif on Jan 30, 2016 22:39:13 GMT -5
Hey Jar....can you take some pictures of what is broken on yours and if the Aussie fulcrum works and what you had to do to get it installed. If I remember correctly and am understanding you issue correcty... that is what is broken on mine. Mine is being held together by a stratigically placed hose clamp! amazingly the clamp stopped the floppy shifter and i have all my 4wd gears! Back story...the tranny shop destroyed mine and refused to fix it. Told me the wole assembly was my only choice and the assembly was over $400.00. I had an indepenant shop check it out and found they had even taken a knife to my inner shifter boot. I was getting prepared to go after them and they went out of business. I have scoured the yards and have yet to find a 4wd in our yards. Now with my grandson here on the weekends, i dont get to the yards enough. So if what you got works... i might go that route! All depends on how hard that fulcrum is to install. Hose clamp can't hold forever.
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Post by jar on Feb 5, 2016 21:26:48 GMT -5
Hey Redraif, sure glad to do it. I am in CO so it was to cold to do anything. I will try this weekend. By any chance you or anybody knows the gasket/ part # to replace when doing this job? Thanks!
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Post by jar on Feb 12, 2016 21:46:37 GMT -5
Update: I took my car to the shop adm they replaced the bushing. That was my problem. Sorry I forgot to tell the shop to take pictures of it. It shifts properly, Hi and Lo back and forth but what I noticed was that I lost the springy feeling. I mean that when you shift it stays in that position where before even though you are in Hi the shifter returned to the middle. This way you just shift straight back down. Now, I have to move the shifter towards the right and then down to put it back in AWD. Any comments, ideas what piece if any I am missing? Thanks!
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Post by ES_97Sport on Feb 18, 2016 18:32:30 GMT -5
Update: I took my car to the shop adm they replaced the bushing. That was my problem. Sorry I forgot to tell the shop to take pictures of it. It shifts properly, Hi and Lo back and forth but what I noticed was that I lost the springy feeling. I mean that when you shift it stays in that position where before even though you are in Hi the shifter returned to the middle. This way you just shift straight back down. Now, I have to move the shifter towards the right and then down to put it back in AWD. Any comments, ideas what piece if any I am missing? Thanks! Straight up from AWD is 4WD HI. Left and up (in an L) is 4LO. If you pull straight down from 4LO, it will spring back to the right. Then its just straight back down to AWD. Is this how its working now? Edward
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Post by jar on Feb 19, 2016 20:04:08 GMT -5
Ed, it does not spring back from 4Hi to the right you have to make sure it is all the way to the right. If not you are forcing it to come down. Thanks!
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Post by jocks on Feb 21, 2016 3:35:28 GMT -5
Im not sure what you mean but it shouldn't spring from 4H to the right. It should be AWD/2H -> up to 4H -> left and up for 4L
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Post by ES_97Sport on Feb 22, 2016 17:25:50 GMT -5
Ed, it does not spring back from 4Hi to the right you have to make sure it is all the way to the right. If not you are forcing it to come down. Thanks! Ok, I don't think I was clear. In 2WD/AWD, straight up is 4HI. So, from 2WD/AWD to 4HI (and vice versa) is just straight up and down. Once in 4HI, the t-case shifter is 'spring loaded' to keep the shifter in the 4HI position - straight up from 2WD/AWD. To shift into 4LO, move the shifter to the left against the spring pressure, then straight up into 4LO. Reversing the process, ... When shifting from 4LO to 4HI, pull the shifter straight down. The spring pressure will 'snap' the shifter back to the right into the '4HI' position. There isn't a LOT of spring pressure but there's definitely plenty enough to tell its spring loaded. If you can't tell or it stays in the left position in '4HI', then there's definitely a problem. The 'spring' part of 'spring loaded' is in the t-case. The 'blade' of the end of the shifter fits in a slot with a spring loaded plunger. If the shifter isn't reinstalled correctly it won't be in the correct position so the spring loaded piece of this appears to be missing. I've done this once or twice and had to disassemble everything to put it back in correctly. Otherwise, my guess is that the plunger is broken in some fashion. Edward
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Post by jar on Feb 22, 2016 23:17:12 GMT -5
I followed the sequence. All of your responses are right. I guess to Ed's last response what I am missing is the "Snap" to the right. When in 4Hi, I can move the shifter to the left and it will stay there. Definitely I am missing the "spring" part. Back to the shop hopefully tomorrow. Jason was the one working on it. ?
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Post by jar on Feb 26, 2016 22:33:25 GMT -5
I went back to the shop this morning and explained the problem. They worked on it and now is all good. ? My problem was the bushing which I bought out of eBay and replace it. No need to buy the whole assembly. Thank you for all responses.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Feb 29, 2016 15:38:11 GMT -5
I went back to the shop this morning and explained the problem. They worked on it and now is all good. ? My problem was the bushing which I bought out of eBay and replace it. No need to buy the whole assembly. Thank you for all responses. Yea, if the bushing breaks it'll loose the 'spring'. The issue in this case is rather than the bottom of the shifter moving against the spring pressure the fulcrum (the ball assembly of the shifter) moves. Glad you got it fixed and the replacement works. Edward
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Post by jkdv8 on Feb 29, 2016 23:29:57 GMT -5
BTW, to whom it may concern, mitsu says to use 3M polyurethane protective tape 8663 in-between the transfer case and base plate and then again in-between the base plate and the shifter assembly. Stated using 3M thread locker as well but don't recall the part number.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Mar 1, 2016 13:56:42 GMT -5
BTW, to whom it may concern, mitsu says to use 3M polyurethane protective tape 8663 in-between the transfer case and base plate and then again in-between the base plate and the shifter assembly. Stated using 3M thread locker as well but don't recall the part number. Hmmmm. I think the Gen 1 service manuals say grey RTV. That's what was used from the factory to seal my '97. Edward
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Post by jkdv8 on Mar 1, 2016 16:18:04 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe something to do with the physically different t-cases. That tape is listed under their aerospace products. Used in the flooring of passenger jets for liquid and corrosion resistance. It's like $100 a roll though but, they have the stuff in tubes for caulk guns.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Mar 1, 2016 19:06:14 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe something to do with the physically different t-cases. That tape is listed under their aerospace products. Used in the flooring of passenger jets for liquid and corrosion resistance. It's like $100 a roll though but, they have the stuff in tubes for caulk guns. Interesting! Yea, the grey RTV is in the service manual. Its used to seal the t-case, front differential cover, rear axle 3rd member, and M/T transmission. I was talking to the tech about this a month ago. No mention of the stuff you're talking about. The grey RTV works really well. I used it on my diff covers - both Mitsu & Dana - before I switched to the Lube Lockers on the Danas. Its what I use on my entire NP231/doubler assembly. 6-7 years and still no leaks. On the Mitsu t-case shifter stuff, I put a coat on both sides of the gaskets and slap it all together. No issues and its easy to clean up when it take it apart. Edward
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Post by jkdv8 on Mar 3, 2016 17:23:35 GMT -5
Interesting! Yea, the grey RTV is in the service manual. Its used to seal the t-case, front differential cover, rear axle 3rd member, and M/T transmission. I was talking to the tech about this a month ago. No mention of the stuff you're talking about. The grey RTV works really well. I used it on my diff covers - both Mitsu & Dana - before I switched to the Lube Lockers on the Danas. Its what I use on my entire NP231/doubler assembly. 6-7 years and still no leaks. On the Mitsu t-case shifter stuff, I put a coat on both sides of the gaskets and slap it all together. No issues and its easy to clean up when it take it apart. Edward Yea, I thought so to. It was for an 03 so could have something to do with the full time AWD.
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