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Post by palmsprings on Apr 23, 2016 11:27:04 GMT -5
Well then, I am really screwed! I just checked my owners manual and it states under transmission fluid that it is RECOMMENDED SP II. And I just added a butt load of SP III "Like" fluid. I will let you know how it goes. 3/2016 Just checking...how has it gone since 2011? i read sp3 is backward compatible,so mo worry,apparently.
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Post by palmsprings on Apr 23, 2016 11:44:44 GMT -5
@ dzuwel Oh absolutely, at this point I am amazed the vehicle has even lasted this long. Like I said we will call it "research and development". I will repost the results in a few months. Other SP III fluids out there are: Valvoline MaxLife® DEX/MERC ATF Royal Purple Max ATF From looking at the Mobile One website they do NOT make an SP III fluid. Even the synthetic stuff is not SP III. Apr 2016 RE: "Oh absolutely,I will repost the results in a few months" Ive missed the report. How did it go these last few years?....hello? uh oh!
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Post by palmsprings on Apr 23, 2016 11:51:16 GMT -5
Section (c) Prohibition on conditions for written or implied warranty; waiver by Commission No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name. Not to be an azz, but "without charge" means FREE. SP III is what is recommended and I don't think anyone here is disputing that. What is being disputed is the fact that some think it absolutely has to be Mitsubishi Diamond, when several companies produce SP III fluids. I may be just talking out my butt right now, I just drove the vehicle anther 15 miles and could not be happier with the shifting. This may abruptly change in the near future, I will definitely keep you posted. apr 2016. i have missed your post update...Howd it go? hello?
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Post by jkdv8 on Apr 23, 2016 17:19:05 GMT -5
If you have a Hyundai or Kia dealer near by check with them. I'm sure they keep it around for the older vehicles even if the new ones don't require it. Which reminds me: heres what I found today i read that hyundai & kia A/Ts were mitsubiti transmissions and that is why they all use sp3.AKA Hyuandai sp3,Kia (havent seen Kia's label)and Mitsubiti Diamond sp3 & ATF mitsubiti motors and in the UK DIAQueen ATF-SP3 I thought diamond was the only sp3 for mitsubitis?? Yea, they provided the engines for them to up until early the early 2000s. Some of those guys haven't posted in over 3 years so you may not get a response. Call it a coincidence but it seems everytime someone on here puts a fluid in the trans other than what is specified they quit logging in and posting. So whether it ends up grenading the trans or they just end up selling it who knows, it's just an observation. I will say I have yet to see anyone use a different fluid and come back years later and say everything is well. You may not notice a difference around town but on the highway and in the southern states with the heat I'm willing to bet it's a recipe for disaster.
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Post by palmsprings on Apr 23, 2016 20:43:37 GMT -5
chuckle,yeah i can imagine,but it would be interesting if enough success stories(if you can believe them) did occur.
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Post by colted on Apr 24, 2016 10:04:58 GMT -5
Which reminds me: heres what I found today i read that hyundai & kia A/Ts were mitsubiti transmissions and that is why they all use sp3.AKA Hyuandai sp3,Kia (havent seen Kia's label)and Mitsubiti Diamond sp3 & ATF mitsubiti motors and in the UK DIAQueen ATF-SP3 I thought diamond was the only sp3 for mitsubitis?? Yea, they provided the engines for them to up until early the early 2000s. Some of those guys haven't posted in over 3 years so you may not get a response. Call it a coincidence but it seems everytime someone on here puts a fluid in the trans other than what is specified they quit logging in and posting. So whether it ends up grenading the trans or they just end up selling it who knows, it's just an observation. I will say I have yet to see anyone use a different fluid and come back years later and say everything is well. You may not notice a difference around town but on the highway and in the southern states with the heat I'm willing to bet it's a recipe for disaster. well said.....I'm from the big south and my testament on the SPIII withstands and will stand by it....you'll see my posts here about it....
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Post by palmsprings on Apr 24, 2016 11:30:59 GMT -5
Which reminds me: heres what I found today i read that hyundai & kia A/Ts were mitsubiti transmissions and that is why they all use sp3.AKA Hyuandai sp3,Kia (havent seen Kia's label)and Mitsubiti Diamond sp3 & ATF mitsubiti motors and in the UK DIAQueen =Diamond Queen) ATF-SP3 all the same? REPLY RE: Some use off brand and say thyings like"Ive driven it for 100 miles and its fine. Thing is,one may not notice negative effects for many more miles than that.
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Post by palmsprings on Apr 30, 2016 22:16:40 GMT -5
4/30 I forgot to add this on my original post the 26th Im beginning to think that Hyundai and kia is the same sp3 and would be safe in the mitsubiti. Ill double check and call to see if Kia& Hyundai ATs that use sp3 are mitsubitis as I have read. odds are its the same.
it wouldnt hurt if others did the same. Document your source of the claim. This is something we need to be pretty sure of . Everyones idea of "research" and " document" is vastly different,and thats for each of us to decide upon when we read the results posted.
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Post by fikse on May 2, 2016 8:15:59 GMT -5
I know for sure that the Royal Purple MaxATF (who is SPIII ) is doing fine. A friend of mine has a MS for several years (4WD both, 2WD is not sold here), who use the car pretty rough (to tow boats offroad/bad roads, tow horsetrailers, etc). He has RP in all (engine, gear, transfer, etc) since a couple of years ago, and it runs nice, better than mine who _should_ be in better condition. Mine car has full service, his has very limited service from garages. Here we live (Norway, winterroads are heavily salted), corrosion is a far bigger concern for these cars....
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Post by cali3k on May 24, 2016 18:43:02 GMT -5
Hi my name is Calvin. I have a 99 RWD auto and I suppose I'm sold on spIII. I'm not sure how sincere the fluid difference is from atf+4 since this thread is just about 10 years old now and my monty has 240k. If anyone knows of good deals on the fluid, please let me know, otherwise I may just get atf+4 since it's easier to get ahold of.
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Post by dirk on May 24, 2016 20:40:32 GMT -5
Trust me, you don't want to just throw any ATF into or transmissions. I have read maybe 3 posts of people using other then Mitsubishi / Kia / Hyundai diamond sp3. Most posts read along the lines of " I just used brand X and it works perfectly fine" & then they stop posting on the boards shortly after. It's not a matter of putting it in and it working right then. It is a matter of how well it holds up in the long run. I run royal purple in my differentials, and synthetic grease on bearings and balm joints, I run penzoil platinum for engine. But know first hand a buddy of mine had his transmission flushed and filled with "100% compatible and better fluid" about 2 months later all kinds of transmission issues. He wouldn't drive his MS it was so bad. Transmission shop said it was because the flush loosened things and he needed a new transmission. Well Mitsubishi dealer did another flush and it went back to working just fine. Granted he probably did some damage to it with the wrong fluid but the right fluid and filter solved all his immediate problems.
Morale of story our transmissions are picky and 95% of the compatible fluids out there aren't compatible and it costs a lot more to fix a transmission then to change fluids with the right stuff. Even saving a few dollars on fluid just to have to change it again is more expensive than changing it 1 time.
I do like to hear about other stuff that works but like to hear how it has worked for years and years My MS is 15+ years old now, and I would like to keep it like it is for another 15+ years.
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Post by palmsprings on May 25, 2016 9:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by dclambertt on May 25, 2016 10:31:42 GMT -5
Hi my name is Calvin. I have a 99 RWD auto and I suppose I'm sold on spIII. I'm not sure how sincere the fluid difference is from atf+4 since this thread is just about 10 years old now and my monty has 240k. If anyone knows of good deals on the fluid, please let me know, otherwise I may just get atf+4 since it's easier to get ahold of. Mitsu Diamond SP III is easy to find online, shipped to your front door.
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Post by cali3k on May 25, 2016 13:23:57 GMT -5
Hi my name is Calvin. I have a 99 RWD auto and I suppose I'm sold on spIII. I'm not sure how sincere the fluid difference is from atf+4 since this thread is just about 10 years old now and my monty has 240k. If anyone knows of good deals on the fluid, please let me know, otherwise I may just get atf+4 since it's easier to get ahold of. Mitsu Diamond SP III is easy to find online, shipped to your front door. I'll do more extensive shopping, thanks!
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Post by chef on May 25, 2016 14:57:47 GMT -5
I ended up picking up a case from Ebay for $85 with free shipping.
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