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Post by ES_97Sport on Sept 3, 2015 16:10:01 GMT -5
I'm starting the crawler build on my new '99. So, I'll have a bunch of parts coming off the vehicle over the following months that will either be sold or go in a dumpster if they're not. See the link below for pics of the vehicle. 1999 Montero Sport Limited 3.5L A/T donor vehicleI don't have anything for sale right now, but I want to get this post up so people are aware that things will be available here in not too long and will be trickling in. I'm doing a SAS (solid axle swap) - that means the ENTIRE drive train and suspension is coming out to be replaced with Dynatrac ProRock 44s, a Mitsu AW4 A/T and NP231 transfer case. Basically, all I'm keeping is the frame, body and engine. So, everything from the frame down will be available ... Axles and all associated parts (R/P 4.63:1) Transmission (V4A51 - NOT AW3/4) Transfer case (2WD/4HI/4LO 1.9:1 - NOT AWD) Suspension (leaf rear/torsion front - NOT COILS) Steering (EXCLUDING steering box, pump) Running boards Front fascia w/fog lights Single CD player (fits in the console; NOT head unit w/CD) The dealership is rebuilding the entire bottom end right now. Don't want to since its just going to get torched off but I have to be able to drive it for next 12 moths to get it to the different shops. Right now the entire steering assembly is a wreck. So, a lot of the stuff on the front will be almost brand new. The only down side is that to save costs, they're replacing everything necessary that's available with non-OEM parts. Fascia and running boards will be available in the next month or two. Transmission and transfer case probably around Christmas/January. I'm not trying to recoup build costs, I'm just trying to not have to dump a bunch of perfectly good parts in a dumpster so I'll be very reasonable on price. I'll charge my cost on shipping - which, KIM, will be significant for some of this. US only. If you're in a CO surrounding state or CO itself work out a pickup or meet half way deal. I don't want to sell just a part here and a part there for a lot of this. In other words, I'm not going to sell one tie rod end. I will be selling assemblies in most cases where that's practical. i.e. both tie rod ends and the sleeve assembled. Edward
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Post by redraif on Sept 10, 2015 15:09:53 GMT -5
Is anything front suspension wise compatible with my 01? Since I have the stupid 245,000 mile parts that may or may not be bad/stock... LOL! I think I'm planning to go to the Alignment shop and see if it its out and if the currents parts on the truck will align. Only replace what is needed now to make it align, then bit by bit collect to replace it all. This might fit in perfectly if your parts will swap over on the front. Heck who knows my rig might align with what its got. Then I can swap all your stuff on and realign with newish....
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Post by ES_97Sport on Sept 11, 2015 18:15:12 GMT -5
Is anything front suspension wise compatible with my 01? Since I have the stupid 245,000 mile parts that may or may not be bad/stock... LOL! I think I'm planning to go to the Alignment shop and see if it its out and if the currents parts on the truck will align. Only replace what is needed now to make it align, then bit by bit collect to replace it all. This might fit in perfectly if your parts will swap over on the front. Heck who knows my rig might align with what its got. Then I can swap all your stuff on and realign with newish.... AFAIK, everything or almost everything. I'd have to check with the dealership, but I think '99-'01 is the grouping for most stuff I've looked at. I'm replacing the front end with whatever they can get that's cheapest. Probably Carquest. But, the front suspension/steering won't come out until about this time next year. Edward
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Post by dirk on Sept 22, 2015 22:31:39 GMT -5
What kind of condition are the running boards, and hate to ask, how much do you figure shipping would be to upstate NY 12985? I have been under my beast alot lately touching up and prepping it for the salt months ahead. only things that look rough are a few suspension components (passenger side upper control arm is looking a little bit spongy) and the subframe for the running boards. possibly steering parts.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Sept 23, 2015 17:49:29 GMT -5
What kind of condition are the running boards, and hate to ask, how much do you figure shipping would be to upstate NY 12985? I have been under my beast alot lately touching up and prepping it for the salt months ahead. only things that look rough are a few suspension components (passenger side upper control arm is looking a little bit spongy) and the subframe for the running boards. possibly steering parts. Boards are in perfect shape. Its a CO car. Shipping? Wow. I have no idea. I'm not even sure how to ship those. I know they're not lite. Its at the dealership right now. I don't expect it back until the end of October or beginning of November. I'll see if I can figure something out with shipping before then. Next on my list is skids and Rhino Lining the rockers so those will be coming off here soon. Suspension/steering won't be coming off until late summer/fall of next year. Got to get all the prep done before torching off the running gear. Edward
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Post by redraif on Sept 24, 2015 21:46:33 GMT -5
Just thought about it. Does yours have the factory lower skid plates. I have to forward most one, but not the second one. I'm sure you will upgrade to a stronger version. So I wanted to ask if yours has one and if you would be parting with it?
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Post by ES_97Sport on Sept 25, 2015 13:29:03 GMT -5
Just thought about it. Does yours have the factory lower skid plates. I have to forward most one, but not the second one. I'm sure you will upgrade to a stronger version. So I wanted to ask if yours has one and if you would be parting with it? The ENTIRE bottom is coming off. The whole front IFS subframe assembly, transmission, transfer case, rear axle and springs, everything. The bottom will be striped to the frame. Nothing that is currently there will be usable with the new drive train and suspension so its all either getting sold or tossed in a dumpster. Yep. All the skid plates are there and they will be going, too. I haven't looked at them (its at the dealership until around Thanksgiving) so I don't know what condition they're in, but they're there. If you want them I'll tell the tech not to put them back on and I'll pick them up. I presume you want all three? Edward
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Post by bdmontero on Sept 25, 2015 13:58:12 GMT -5
Dang! How long will it take them if they worked on a SAS non stop? Like a month or a few weeks to finish it and it be highway safe?;D already prepping the wife for some dynatrac d44's ;D ;D
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Post by redraif on Sept 25, 2015 23:08:16 GMT -5
There are 3?... lol I only had one.... yes I'm definately interested in the lot. just got to let my other half calm down after the bill to replace the bearings p&l and crank pulley & belts (parts only) Shipping will be the interesting thing.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 1, 2015 13:24:17 GMT -5
Dang! How long will it take them if they worked on a SAS non stop? Like a month or a few weeks to finish it and it be highway safe?;D already prepping the wife for some dynatrac d44's ;D ;D For JUST the SAS? Last one took about 2 1/2 months. That is JUST the SAS. So, axles and steering. That was not straight through. I think labor was something like 50-60 hours. Since this was the very first SAS on a Mitsu, there was a good chunk of time in development even with my having a detailed plan. If I do a radius arm setup like I have now, it'll go much faster. All they have to do is clone everything. I already have axle widths, steering lengths and geometry so there would be very little - if any - 'gee, I'm not quite sure if this will work the way with think' kinda stuff. If I do the 3-link, its going to take longer by a good bit. Noone has done a 3-link on a Mitsu front end. I've got detailed design docs, but without putting the entire thing in CAD and cycling through the suspension, checking for clearances, etc., I won't know if its practical or possible until we're almost done. Most likely in a couple months I'll take the time to CAD this design up. Its a lot cheaper if I figure out it wont work before they get 98% done and find out the upper link runs through the middle of the starter. The reason this will take a year is because I have a TON of stuff to do before they can even start on the SAS. Bumper and winch have to be on to set the spring rates and valving (doing coil-overs), Rhino lining and skids have to be done so we don't have cross member mount conflicts, transmission & crawl box so its driveable and so once the axles are in they can measure for drive shafts, and the dealership has to get it 'restored' so there aren't any Mitsu mechanical issues and so I can get it to the other shops before the SAS starts. And, I have to build the transmission, t-case and crawl box setup. The t-case is easy. The crawl box is slightly less easy, but still easy. The transmission ... THAT is going to take more work than both. I'm putting in a '97 Mitsu AW4 - which isn't a big deal - with the PCS TCU and Radesigns Winters shifter. Shifter is cake. In theory, the PCS TCU should be a no-brainer ... in theory. It does support the AW4, so .... AND, I have to tune the TCU. Thankfully the FSMs have all the shift points documented so that shouldn't take any time to speak of to set up. Further tweeking will take place after its on the road. The SAS itself isn't complicated if its a radius arm setup, but there's a LOT of prep work that has to be done before that's started and that takes time. If I could take six months off it'd be done for spring, but.... If any of you decide to do a radius arm front end, I can hand you the exact measurements for the steering, axle widths, etc., and PN#s. You could hand them a box of parts and they could just knock themselves out. The ProRocks are REALLY nice! HOWEVER, they're not the only axles out there. D44s aren't event the only option. Since you have an automatic, you don't need the 5.38s. That configuration is ONLY available in a D44/D44 combo. 4.90s, 5.13s and 5.29s are available in Ford and Dana. So, you could do a Ford 9" rear with the Dana 44 HP front easy. Of course, D60s are also an option, but I can tell you right now that ProRock 60s are going to weight so much you're never going to get it to move. The ProRock 44 in the back of my black Sport is a lot heavier than my old Currie 44 - it is definitely noticeable. Edward
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 1, 2015 13:26:26 GMT -5
There are 3?... lol I only had one.... yes I'm definately interested in the lot. just got to let my other half calm down after the bill to replace the bearings p&l and crank pulley & belts (parts only) I bet! Been there!! Yes, there are three. The front upper, front lower and rear. Sweet! I'll tell Jamie to leave them off and I'll pick 'em up. I'll let you know I have them. Edward
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Post by redraif on Oct 1, 2015 21:53:48 GMT -5
Yipeeee!
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Post by dirk on Oct 1, 2015 22:55:11 GMT -5
Crap, I didn't know 3 either, mine only had the front 2, and those are the ones I had powder coated. Wish I knew about the 3rd. Oh well live and learn. Never know xmas is approaching I'll add it to Santa's list. Wonder if the back 1 missing is effecting my MPG. I get about 1.5 extra mpg with the fronts back on.
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 2, 2015 13:51:10 GMT -5
Crap, I didn't know 3 either, mine only had the front 2, and those are the ones I had powder coated. Wish I knew about the 3rd. Oh well live and learn. Never know xmas is approaching I'll add it to Santa's list. Wonder if the back 1 missing is effecting my MPG. I get about 1.5 extra mpg with the fronts back on. Rear one is kinda a big thick L shape. I really doubt it. the front ones, though, i can see that. Edward
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Post by ES_97Sport on Oct 6, 2015 15:08:54 GMT -5
Yipeeee! I just talked to the tech. He has the front upper and lower out. Told him not to put them back in. Next time he has it on the lift, he'll put the rear. He'll let me know when they're all out and ready to go and you'll be all set. Edward
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